Jase, Missy, and Al dive into an unfiltered conversation about cheating, confession, and the judgment that often follows when sin comes into the light. Joined by longtime friend, author, and counselor Kasey Van Norman, they confront the lie beneath adultery and why hiding can feel safer than healing, especially in church culture. Kasey shares her own story of infidelity, exposure, and redemption, revealing how honesty brought freedom even when consequences were severe.

In this episode: 1 John 1, verse 7; John 8, verses 1–11; Ephesians 6, verses 16–17; Isaiah 6, verses 5–8

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Chapters:
00:00 Unashamed “after dark”
03:58 Why church smiles don’t match Sunday morning reality
07:12 Parenting later in life changes everything
09:16 Missy welcomes longtime friend Casey Van Norman
12:38 Duck hunting & menopause don’t mix
20:36 Casey’s marriage story & the moment everything shifted
27:48 Believing in God but believing the wrong lie
35:04 Confession, consequences, & real freedom
42:18 Illness, criticism, & choosing grace anyway
49:36 Creating space for healing

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