Jase, Al, and Zach welcome MercyMe frontman Bart Millard for a raw discussion about childhood abuse, inherited trauma, depression, and the weight of fatherhood. Jase relates a surprising connection between Bart and his oldest son, Reed, early in Reed’s music career. The guys reflect on the grief and pride that comes from watching your children rise up stronger through the very pain that once nearly broke you.

In this episode: Daniel 3, verses 16–18; Revelation 12, verse 11; 1 John 2, verses 12–17

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Chapters:
0:00 Jase’s Surprise MercyMe Connection
3:45 “I Can Only Imagine 2” & Movie Accuracy
13:40 Father Wounds & Breaking the Cycle
20:15 Apologizing to Our Kids Is Hard
26:00 Bart’s Depression & 370-Pound Wake-Up Call
32:10 Raising a Child with Type 1 Diabetes
39:00 Daniel 3 & the “Even If” Faith
44:30 Billy Graham’s Prayer Over Sam
48:20 Grief, Gratitude & God’s Bigger Plan

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