Sept. 2, 2026

Ep 1412 | Skillet’s John Cooper Backs Up Phil Robertson’s Wild Take on Rock Music

John Cooper of Skillet recruits the Robertsons for his plan to reclaim music and culture for Jesus. John reflects on meeting Phil during his Alzheimer’s journey and learning Skillet’s music helped inspire a Duck Commander cameraman’s dramatic transformation. Jase, Al, and Zach also compare Skillet’s path through Christian rock with the criticism the Robertsons faced on ‘Duck Dynasty,’ while exploring anxiety, identity, and the enemy’s distortion of God’s creation.


In this episode: John 14:15; Luke 15:4; John 4:10-14; Colossians 3:23; 1 Samuel 16:23; John 10:10; Galatians 5:1; Psalm 34:8; Genesis 1:27; Genesis 4:21; Psalm 127:1


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Chapters

0:00 John Cooper Remembers Phil

5:17 Skillet’s Robertson Connection

12:57 John’s First Christian Rock Concert

21:05 How Skillet Got Its Name

25:32 Taking Back What Evil Distorts

30:44 ‘Duck Dynasty’ Defies Reality TV

36:34 Skillet’s Secret to Longevity

42:35 Anxiety, Identity & After the Storm

49:15 The Weight Crushing Young People

54:03 Why the Gospel Is Breaking Through

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