Ep 417 | When Phil Saw the Ocean for the First Time & Zach's Faith Crisis

Phil lays his eyes on the ocean horizon and is struck by its vast boundaries. Zach opens up about his early skepticism of faith, and Jase asks a thought-provoking question. Phil talks about the “dirt-floor” believers in Jesus Christ. And Zach quotes Blaise Pascal to describe God from a mathematician's perspective.

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