Jan. 23, 2026

Ep 1254 | Phil Robertson Wept at Auschwitz Concentration Camp & Why Moral Truth Matters

Show Notes

Al, Zach, John Luke, and Christian reflect on a moment when Phil, a man who rarely got emotional, was moved to tears after witnessing the reality of unimaginable evil. The guys launch into a sobering conversation about why atrocities like the Holocaust can never be reduced to opinion or explained away, and why denying such evil ultimately erodes the very idea of right and wrong. Drawing on the works of C.S. Lewis, they wrestle with where moral truth comes from, why it exists beyond personal preference, and how abandoning it opens the door to history’s darkest chapters.

Today’s conversation is about Lesson 1 of C.S. Lewis on Christianity taught by visiting Hillsdale professor Michael Ward. Take the course with us at no cost to you! Sign up at http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/.

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C.S. Lewis’s writings bring the great questions of the Christian faith to life. Through his imaginative and invigorating style, Lewis answers these questions in ways that are compelling to those outside Christianity and energizing to those within the Christian faith.

In this free, seven-lecture course, Professor Michael Ward—a leading scholar of C.S. Lewis—will explore Lewis’s:

argument for objective moral value in response to the rise of modern subjectivism;
bittersweet path to conversion and the role of enjoyment in the Christian life;
advice regarding the proper way to pray and read the Bible;
teachings concerning the purpose of pain and how to confront suffering and loss;
insights about the nature of heaven and hell.

This course examines these fundamental topics not only through his classic works—including Mere Christianity, The Screwtape Letters, and The Abolition of Man—but also through Lewis’s personal experiences with doubt, conversion, suffering, grief, and joy. Through this course, students will discover Lewis’s core lessons regarding the truth and goodness of the Christian faith and how to apply those lessons to one’s life.

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Chapters:

00:00 — Straight from the duck blind to the podcast table

05:18 — Why studying C.S. Lewis is different from studying Scripture

10:02 — What a Christian “apologist” actually is (and isn’t)

15:44 — How C.S. Lewis moved from atheism to belief

21:31 — Objective vs. subjective morality explained

28:47 — Auschwitz, evil, and why some truths are self-evident

35:12 — What happens when “might makes right”

41:26 — Can morality exist without God?

48:39 — Why C.S. Lewis still matters today